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The former president also alleges Johann Rupert interfered with the rand after Gordhan was sacked as a minister. Former president Jacob Zuma has accused former mineral resources minister Ngoako Ramathlodi of being a spy. Zuma said Ramathlodi was recruited while he was a student in Lesotho, adding that the allegations the former minister made against him when testifying at the commission was part of a ploy to have the former president “removed”. The former president told the commission that the narrative that he is corrupt is part of a plan to “character assassinate” him because in the early 90s he came across information of spies with the ANC. Zuma said he has a list of those who are spies with the governing party. Some of these spies have given authors information to write books about him, Zuma told the commission. The former president also told the chairperson of the commission of inquiry into state capture, Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo of businessman Johann Rupert’s alleged threat to interfere with the rand if Pravin Gordhan was sacked as a minister. Gordhan is now minister of public enterprises. Zuma fired him in 2017 along with is then deputy, Mcebisi Jonas. Gordhan was replaced by Malusi Gigaba. Zuma said he heard of this threat from the current minister of transport, Fikile Mbalula, who had attended a certain event at one of Rupert’s farms. ALSO READ: The Guptas were friends with Mandela and Thabo Mbeki, Zuma tells Zondo The former president said Mbalula told him that at the said event Rupert told the minister, who served in the sports portfolio at the time, that he inform Zuma that should he remove Gordhan than they – Rupert and others – “would shut down the economy” and interfere with the rand. “Indeed they did interfere with the rand,” Zuma said, adding that one person this year admitted to this, the interference with the rand. The former president told the commission of attempts on his life.